Saturday, February 26, 2005

90 Year old Man's Family Denied Indult Mass for Funeral

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As much as do not share most of the opinions of M. Matt's The Remnant, this is a fine article is about a Catholic who's last wish was to have a Indult TLM for his funeral. Something well within his rights as a Catholic.

The bishop of New Ulm said that to allow the man's last wish to be buried using the Funeral Mass of 1962 would constitute an act of personal devotion, which is opposed to the spirit of Vatican II, or we should say, post Vatican II reform of the liturgy.

On the face of it this does not make sense. The man himself is dead, so it isn't for his private devotion. Second, it is a funeral mass like others, does this mean all funeral masses are private devotion. What is the difference between a Novus Ordo and Tridentine Funeral Mass. Using this logic all funeral masses should be abolished and only done when there is a pre-scheduled daily or weekend mass. Then all masses will be funeral masses.

I don't want to criticize the good bishop, but only his questionable arguments that were probably the work of one of his people, not himself.

This 90 year old man should have had the grace of a TLM for his funeral if his pastor said it was ok and there were priests to do it. The Bishop of New Ulm should think better of his flock, with all due respect.

But being from Minnesota, I can remember New Ulm being somewhat of an outlayer theologically and practically.

Vatican II Spirit Vs. Letter


Wednesday, February 16, 2005 This is an old article but it shows that these things work

Monday, February 14, 2005

San Francisco Faith | April 1998 News

San Francisco Faith | April 1998 News:

"YOUNG CATHOLICS SHOULD NOT ATTEND THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS, according to Bishop DuMaine. In a letter to San Jose Catholics rejecting a petition for a weekly Traditional Latin Mass, DuMaine wrote that the Latin Mass indult is intended only for a dying generation: 'the Holy Father's intent was to give comfort to those who grew up with the old forms (as I did) and remain deeply attached to them. The intent was not to introduce a new generation of Catholics to forms now disallowed, except by indult.'

But if this is true, why has the Holy Father given explicit confirmation to permanent Latin Mass priestly societies like the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter and the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest? 'We don't know why the Pope did that,' said Roberta Ward, the director of media relations for the San Jose diocese. So the bishop does not have an answer to the question? 'No,' she said, adding that the bishop had never even heard of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest"

This is an unfortunate incorrect statement. I respect the Bishop's right to do what he wants in his diocese, but I have not found that language either in the Holy Father's published remarks or the Ecclesia Dei Commission. I am sure the San Jose Diocese makes room for all sorts of inovative liturgies as most large diocese do. Let the Holy Father and the Ecclesia Dei Commission say what the "intent" was. I can quote more than one Cardinal, Bishop or the Holy Father to the effect that the 1962 liturgy is a valid and continual source of grace and instruction for the post Vatican II church.

Young People Experience 1962 Mass

HAMPTON ROADS News (Printable Version): "Latin Mass attracting a younger generation of parishioners
By STEVEN G. VEGH, The Virginian-Pilot
December 21, 2003
Last updated: 7:41 PM

Yet Sunday mornings find youthful faces throughout the church. A steady trickle of newcomers in their 20s, 30s and early 40s has boosted St. Benedicts membership to about 200, leading it to add a second Sunday service and expand its building. The chapel had about 80 members when it was founded in 1992.

Many of the young newcomers were restless Catholics who have found in the Latin Mass something tried and proven. Theres a sense that the whole has been refined over centuries, said 36-year-old Ron Weber, a Chesapeake resident who grew up going to English-only Masses. It gives you the sense that God is always the same.

For the younger generation, which rarely experienced the traditions while growing up, the old practices can serve as a new way of connecting with the divine. They enable people to pray in a certain way that helps their faith, said the Rev. James Martin, who has written about the trend as associate editor of America, a Jesuit magazine.

More than 100 dioceses across the country have parishes that celebrate the Latin Mass regularly. The rite also is know as the Tridentine Mass, because it was institutionalized by Catholic Church leaders at the Council of Trent in the 16th century.

What impresses Abbaticchio about the old rite is that, apart from the sermon, priests have little opportunity to inject themselves into the service. The Mass is scripted and predictable.

For older Catholics and many baby boomers at St. Benedict, the old liturgy has almost a nostalgic feel: It is the standard with which they grew up. But for some younger Catholics raised on English-only services, the Latin Mass is oddly fresh in its return to tradition.

Compared to the old rite, some younger members said, the contemporary Mass is too unpredictable and too much like Protestant services.

To some extent, interest by some young Catholics in devotional practices reflects a wider appreciation within Catholicism for time-honored ways. Pope John Paul II declared the period from October 2002 to October 2003 as the Year of the Rosary, and last month, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a document describing how traditional practices can fit into Catholic life.

Additionally, he said, younger Catholics are less likely to be biased against traditional practices they haven't experienced than some older Catholics who remain glad to be rid of ways that they found stifling or outmoded.

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Yahoo! News - Last of Children to See Fatima Virgin Dies at 97

Yahoo! News - Last of Children to See Fatima Virgin Dies at 97

She lived long and inspired many people. One reason that it is important is that those who use Vatican II and the Novus Ordo against the Church try to use Lucia and Fatima. Now they can no longer do this.

Tuesday, February 08, 2005

Cardinal Alfons Stickler

Cardinal Alfons Stickler

Cardinal Stickler's Tridentine Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral, NY

Cardinal Stickler's Tridentine Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral, NY

Changing the Catholic Mass

Changing the Catholic Mass

Pope Pius XII on the "Suicide of altering the faith in her liturgy"

Msgr. Eugene Pacelli, the future Pope Pius XII, made the astonishing prophecy on the future upheavel in the Church:

"I am worried by the Blessed Virgin's messages to Lucy of Fatima. This persistence of Mary about the dangers which menace the Church is a divine warning against the suicide of altering the Faith, in Her liturgy, Her theology and Her soul. … I hear all around me innovators who wish to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, destroy the universal flame of the Church, reject Her ornaments and make Her feel remorse for Her historical past. "A day will come when the civilized world will deny its God, when the Church will doubt as Peter doubted. She will be tempted to believe that man has become God. In our churches, Christians will search in vain for the red lamp where God awaits them. Like Mary Magdalene, weeping before the empty tomb, they will ask, 'Where have they taken Him?'" - Roche, Pie XII Devant L'Historie, p. 52-53